If you've ever used the "Pimps 'n Hos" Gang Style, then you may have noticed there are a few bugs with them which don't exist for the other Gang Styles.
I can tell you now, I don't know why these issues exist, and for the most part, there is no proper fix currently.
But I hope I can at least give some insight into what's happening through my investigations into these issues.
I can tell you now, I don't know why these issues exist, and for the most part, there is no proper fix currently.
But I hope I can at least give some insight into what's happening through my investigations into these issues.
Explanation:
Issue 1.
The first issue is the incorrectly named PimpHo NPCs.
The "mal"/"fem" in their names mean nothing. Both "lt" (Lieutenants) are identical males, and both "sol" (Soldiers) are identical females.
![PimpHo_1.png PimpHo_1.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42875-9469fbdd83eadcefcf28c0c3d473f1f9.jpg?hash=BpJ2VQQ1pQ)
To fix this, in the attached gang_customization.xtbl;
I have made both Male slots use npc_s_pimpho_mal_lt,
I have made both Female slots use npc_s_pimpho_fem_sol.
![PimpHo_2.png PimpHo_2.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42876-d7ff73ca35622b6a7dc0ae473e1e24ba.jpg?hash=FYG88NJoGj)
Issue 2.
The second issue is; The Male Soldier NPC for the PimpHo Gang Style is replaced with snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre.xtbl in cutscenes. I believe this is hard coded.
![PimpHo_3.png PimpHo_3.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42877-df6e5b64555d8b4f108426dac8360b20.jpg?hash=4IxWqSDMtw)
In an attempt to fix this, I have swapped NPC Characters used by the following NPC Preset files:
npc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre.xtbl ↔ npc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre.xtbl
snpc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre.xtbl ↔ snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre.xtbl
So:
npc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre now uses npc_s_sporty_male_soldier_cha,
npc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre now uses npc_s_pimpho_mal_lt_cha,
snpc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre now uses snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_cha,
snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre now uses snpc_s_pimpho_mal_lt_cha.
(Confused? See my NPC Guide for more information about how NPC files work.)
I have also changed assignments in gang_customization.xtbl to make use of this:
Sporty SoldierMale now uses the new npc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre and snpc_s_pimpho_mal_sol_pre,
PimpHo SoldierMale now uses the new npc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre and snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre.
The Result:
The PimpHo gang is now fully present in cutscenes, with no Sporty Male Soldier placeholder.
Unforunately, despite the changes, the problem has only been moved to the Sporty gang, as now the Sporty gang uses a PimpHo Male Soldier placeholder in cutscenes.
![PimpHo_4.png PimpHo_4.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42878-1777fae0afcd51e08268cfa0b4378962.jpg?hash=IDv5aNfOf0)
In conclusion:
snpc_s_sporty_male_soldier_pre.xtbl will ALWAYS replace snpc_s_pimpho_[...]_pre.xtbl in cutscenes whenever an npc_s_pimpho_[...] NPC is assigned to a gang as a SoldierMale in gang_customization.xtbl.
As for why this is an issue in the first place; I can only imagine it was a quick fix to prevent Gat from beating up a Ho in the "Welcome to the Third Street Saints" cutscene.
Issue 3.
The only exception to the above issue is the "Stakeout" (SS11-01) Cutscene.
Even with the above changes, A PimpHo Saint (watching the monitor) would still be replaced with a Sporty Male.
![PimpHo_5.png PimpHo_5.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42879-bf4015dd9a365c34ba8bd3ab0d7dee70.jpg?hash=8g10vcS05F)
This was fixed in Cutscene Patch v1.3.
For some reason, the cause for this specific issue was "<SpeakingThug>true</SpeakingThug>".
Changing this to "false" allowed PimpHo Saints to show for this Cutscene.
![PimpHo_6.png PimpHo_6.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42880-62ac6bfb5b244cc39a4e10be2bd695bf.jpg?hash=PnrQsp2HcG)
Issue 4.
The fourth issue is that female PimpHo NPCs sometimes appear with a masculine morph in cutscenes.
This has also been addressed in Cutscene Patch v1.3. Here I will explain what caused it.
![1739480393862.png 1739480393862.png](https://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/data/attachments/42/42881-3c2d406ce725f6041bbaf6f03cca8c87.jpg?hash=VZrcMvKxX0)
The Morph_Sets (.morph_pc) used for NPCs in cutscenes are defined by the cutscene files themselves (eg: BR10-01.xtbl "Rallying Cry").
All Saints NPCs (with "_s_" in their name) share the Morph_Set names of "white", "black", "hispanic" and "asian".
But for some reason, Female PimpHo NPCs do not have an "asian" Morph_Set, unlike every other Saints NPC.
So when it is told to use an "asian" Morph_Set, it instead just defaults to the base character morph (as if you set all of your Playa's sliders to "0" in the Plastic Surgeon).
This base morph is neither male nor female, so it will make female NPCs look more masculine, and male NPCs look more feminine.
CAUTION!:
Saving while these files are installed will unlock all gang_customization unlockables.
This is a necessary modification to gang_customization.xtbl to prevent those unlockables being re-locked after installing the file.
It is recommended NOT to save your game while these files are installed if you have not yet unlocked all of the Gang Customization unlockables through gameplay.
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