Remove pistol silencer?

WSabey

WSabey

Hi, I'm not keen on the silencer on the level 3-4 police pistol, but I can't figure out how to remove it (revert model and firing sound to level 2). I've checked the weapons, weapon_upgrades, and weapon_pistol tables, but I can't find where the cosmetic upgrade changes are, just the mechanical ones. Can someone who knows the game a bit better than me help me out please?
 
Thanks, that worked even better than I thought it would, I suspected that the different levels were completely different models but they turned out to be modular.
While that was exactly what I was looking for for the model, I still can't find where to go for the sound; what am I missing here?
 
WSabey said:
Thanks, that worked even better than I thought it would, I suspected that the different levels were completely different models but they turned out to be modular.
While that was exactly what I was looking for for the model, I still can't find where to go for the sound; what am I missing here?
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Thats awesome!!!

What did you add/delete/replace in "items_3d.xtbl" to get the desired effect????

I find it rather surprising that the upgrades were modular rather than a completely different mesh.

I am currently trying to do the same thing with the ".45 Shepherd" and your help might save me a few game crashes.
 
Under the item tag, there's a props tag containing a bunch of prop tags. I just deleted the prop tag where Upgrade_ID was 2, and that disables the silencer being added at level 3. In the case of the Shepherd, which has multiple props for each level, you'll need to experiment to figure out which Upgrade_Group corresponds to what.
 
Hmmm... ...It is not working for me,
not even any game crashes to tell me I'm doing something wrong.

I am in misc_tables.vpp_pc editing items_3d.xtbl
I am editing line "<Item><Name>Pistol-Gang" aka 45 Shepard

I have deleted various things like "</Upgrade_Group><Upgrade_ID>2<" (and much much more) and nothing happens in game (it still loads and runs fine)

It would be quite helpful if you could copy and paste the exact line you deleted
on this page so I can get a better understanding of how to properly edit files such as this.

Obviously I'm missing something very simple.

Thanks for helping
 
OK, first of all, do you understand how XML works? If not, you need to read up on that. The xtbl files are XML fragments, so you need to know the basic structure of XML to be able to edit them properly.
 
Wait, all you did is simply change some line on "items_3d.xtbl"?

Damn, some good info. I can finally change however I want my weapon to be.

WSabey said:
While that was exactly what I was looking for for the model, I still can't find where to go for the sound; what am I missing here?
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All I know is that the sound can be changed on "weapons.xtbl", but if you want to, for example, change the sound a Level 3 police pistol does/gets, you can't as far as I or even others know. Sounds can be changed manually though, that is, using the "custom radio" tutorial differently.
 
(SOLVED)
When I said "Obviously I'm missing something very simple." I was right.

The main problem was my items_3d.xtbl was being over written somewhere.
(no game crashes after deleting items_3d.xtbl gave me the hint).

I fixed the problem by placing items_3d.xtbl directly into the root directory.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\saints row the third

In the file, I then deleted a couple of the prop tags
Like removing the pistol silencer

Example
<Prop>
<Name>20</Name>
<Upgrade_Group>A</Upgrade_Group>
<Upgrade_ID>2</Upgrade_ID>
<Flags>
</Flags>
</Prop>

OR as it is displayed in the .xtbl

<Prop><Name>20</Name><Upgrade_Group>A</Upgrade_Group><Upgrade_ID>2</Upgrade_ID><Flags></Flags></Prop>

Again, thanks for the help WSabey and Royce.
Without them this would not be possible.
 
WSabey said:
OK, first of all, do you understand how XML works? If not, you need to read up on that. The xtbl files are XML fragments, so you need to know the basic structure of XML to be able to edit them properly.
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and where would someone go to do this? sorry i want to do exactly what your doing but with multiple guns and im not sure where to start
 
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