The SR Community Should Treat the Developers Better. Seriously.

To start this off, I just want it to be known that I'm all for holding developers accountable when they make questionable decisions. However in this situation, that's not the case.​

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Ever since the newest Saints Row game was announced, there has been a wave of constant disrespect toward the developers at Volition. It's very sickening and honestly unacceptable how they've been treated the past few months. They've gotten threats, insults, and all things negative hurled at them because y'all are unhappy that the game isn't a carbon copy of SR1 or GTA? The community knew that this was going to be a reboot, not a remaster or remake, but a complete reboot. Reboots are absolutely normal in this industry and GTA (since this game gets referenced a lot when talking about SR) does it all the time to the point where they now have three separate universes. That's besides the point though, if you were not happy with what you saw then there are ways that you can express your frustration without hurling insults at the developers.

I've seen some very nasty comments, but one in particular that stood out to me, was somebody wishing (TW ⚠️) rape and suicide on one of the developers, all because she shared her boss for the showcase during International Women's Week. That was a horrible reaction to someone sharing their boss on top of all the other comments, calling their bosses cringe etc etc. How would y'all feel if you posted something that you were proud of creating and people completely slander it and wish something as horrible as the act mentioned above on said creation. That type of behavior is very weird and definitely not funny.

People in this community will sit here and attack the developers across social media platforms, then turn around and complain that they are not transparent with the community when they really are despite what a lot of people say! If I was in their case, I'd cut back contact with a community that's not appreciating of it. Even then, they can't always share everything due to NDAs which is a Non-Disclosure Agreement that prevents people from sharing certain information with outside parties. (Can't believe I have to explain that.) Furthermore, stop being dismissive of information they put out when it's something you don't like. What's the point of asking for transparency and communication when you disregard what they say because you don't like what you're hearing.​

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Since I already know someone is going to bring it up. I personally believe that a GIF that is 10+ years old and was made around SRTT's release was not the worst thing posted on the internet like some people make it out to be. It was also in response to a comment that WASN'T constructive criticism like some individuals have claimed. It was a rude comment and I personally thought it was an appropriate response to it. 🤷‍♂️



TLDR: There's no excuse for the way people who claim to be fans of the series (regardless of which ones you claim) to attack/insult/demean the devs the way y'all do. They've never once turned their back on the community and they've been as transparent at they can be. If you want more communication and interaction with the developers then stop treating them like garbage.​
 
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Its insane how they are using IdolNinja's good name as an excuse to disrespect the devs. All of Volition were Mike's friends, and he'd have his heart broken if he saw the way these "fans" talk to the devs. It was literally his last wish after stepping down as a community manager to not harass anyone if we don't like the upcoming game
 
Its insane how they are using IdolNinja's good name as an excuse to disrespect the devs. All of Volition were Mike's friends, and he'd have his heart broken if he saw the way these "fans" talk to the devs. It was literally his last wish after stepping down as a community manager to not harass anyone if we don't like the upcoming game
This is the part that is also disgusting as hell. Idol was an amazing person and all of Volition loved him too, the way people used his death to try and slander the game AND the developers was EXTREMELY nasty and disgusting. Made me sick to my stomach because he would NOT approve of the behavior that people have been exhibiting in the community.
 
My personal favorite was, after some people kept saying Volition ignored the roots and disliked SR1, the SR account making the "It's with 1 'L', bitch" reference from SR1 when someone spellt Santo Ileso as Illeso, and people took it as a personal insult.

And what's even funnier is that at the same time the same people who say Volition censoring Freckle Bitch's by shortening it to FB is "cringe", "woke", and "soy", got offended by the line from SR1 with bitch in it.
 
I'll admit I had my share of disrespectful comments upon the initial release of the game... And still do make a few comments here and there, such as wanting more than just a clip of the Boss walking down the street.

Beyonce: Even then, they can't always share everything due to NDAs which is a Non-Disclosure Agreement that prevents people from sharing certain information with outside parties. (Can't believe I have to explain that.)

Totally didn't even think about that. BTW. That explains a lot.

But even I wouldn't stoop so low as to threaten the Devs with such awful things. They created a game that they wanted to, I don't see how that's any different to any other game company.

I love Route 66, desert settings, and the fact that the Saints main hideout is going to be a Church like in the original Saints Row.

I also can't wait to see the apartment they all share at the start of the game.
 
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I'll admit I had my share of disrespectful comments upon the initial release of the game... And still do make a few comments here and there, such as wanting more than just a clip of the Boss walking down the street.

Beyonce: Even then, they can't always share everything due to NDAs which is a Non-Disclosure Agreement that prevents people from sharing certain information with outside parties. (Can't believe I have to explain that.)

Totally didn't even think about that. BTW. That explains a lot.

But even I wouldn't stoop so low as to threaten the Devs with such awful things. They created a game that they wanted to, I don't see how that's any different to any other game company.

I love Route 66, desert settings, and the fact that the Saints main hideout is going to be a Church like in the original Saints Row.

I also can't wait to see the apartment they all share at the start of the game.
I understand that the community as a whole would love to see more from the team, including me. There's just a more respectful way of asking instead of being crass and rude about it. A simple "Hey, can we see more footage?" is suffice enough.

The developers and the Community Manager have all stated they would love to show you more and if they had it their way they would, but it's just not their call to make.
 
My personal favorite was, after some people kept saying Volition ignored the roots and disliked SR1, the SR account making the "It's with 1 'L', bitch" reference from SR1 when someone spellt Santo Ileso as Illeso, and people took it as a personal insult.

And what's even funnier is that at the same time the same people who say Volition censoring Freckle Bitch's by shortening it to FB is "cringe", "woke", and "soy", got offended by the line from SR1 with bitch in it.
It's really funny how they say all that and got mad at a 10+ year old gif and quote from a game they all claim to love. That just goes to show you who is really a fan and who only played the intro of SR1 and called it a day.
 
people used his death to try and slander the game AND the developers was EXTREMELY nasty and disgusting
Its insane to me, because Mike's job as a community manager at Volition was LITERALLY to approve stuff into the game as something fans would love in the game. He dedicated last 4 years of his life making sure this is the best SR game that we'd love, so idk where they got the idea he'd actually hate the reboot. (in fact, he said he's down with 90% of the reboot right before stepping down). Oh and his mod, it literally made nuclear flamingo launcher, handheld septic gun and orbital shotgun, and they think he'd hate the idea of explosive pinata launcher.

Not to mention he literally worked on the wall everyone said "baited" them and was misleading. I don't understand in what universe they think Mike would be on the same page as they are. All they know is he loved SR2 and have never stopped for one second to think why is that.
 
I'm pretty sure most of the people who respect Idol and are OG fans don't know what he said on one of the streams. He said he liked playing the new SR game, played it whenever he could, he said he even liked it more than Saints Row 2 (where he spent over 1000 hours btw and was his favorite SR game) and he wanted to see fans reactions to the reveal trailer
 
I'm pretty sure most of the people who respect Idol and are OG fans don't know what he said on one of the streams. He said he liked playing the new SR game, played it whenever he could, he said he even liked it more than Saints Row 2 (where he spent over 1000 hours btw and was his favorite SR game) and he wanted to see fans reactions to the reveal trailer
Literally all of this, how can people claim him as their favorite SR Modder/CM when they know nothing about him or anything he stated about the reboot. Ugh, it pisses me off I really hope he's resting peacefully.
 
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