SRV Ideas thread.

[Quantum]

@Quantum
1. That's a matter of preference.
You can't apply a matter of personal preference to set the standards as to what everyone else should enjoy or base an idea on.
What you've decided to limited yourself to isn't necessarily what everyone else limits themselves on.

IV breaks those boundaries of realistic ideas & defines the over the top elements that makes the series stand out more.
Moves it from just another GTA clone.
Why remain limited to that simply because most limits themselves to that.

How does anything the series does evolve, progress, improve if there's no change.
A bigger world, better graphics, on a new console, but yet it's the same thing, more of the same as the first.

That's exactly what kills franchises, no one is willing to be creative or go beyond realism.
The Real Is Brown & gritty dramatic realism shouldn't be applied to SaintsRowV, the western gaming industry is slowly killing gaming with that.

Yes, it is a matter of preference. But I would not want Real Is Brown & gritty dramatic realism in Saints Row either. I want bright vibrant colors, with a lot of highly saturated purple!
But, honestly, I have been entertained by all the Saints Row games I've played, and there are some very clever and creative people at Volition. I'm confident that they'll carve out their own unique niche with Saints Row V.

lol I think we agree just in reverse a little.
I'm no on the graphical realism & yes somewhat on the story realism.

That's what makes the world interesting -- everyone has a different opinion. I think Volition should just do whatever they want, because, no matter what, someone's going to love them and someone's going to hate them!

 

[HokyoHollowpoint]

Was the time machine the true ending ?

Gat out of Hell, How the Saints Save Christmas, Enter the Dominatrix each fits better to the line of them not using or knowing about the time machine.
Each starts on the ship in space.
Why include any of that if the official ending didn't disregard the time machine.

To me the time machine really seems more setup as a false ending then anything else.
I mean Asha Odekar mentions a time machine even before you beat IV.
She said it repeatedly "I wonder if there's a time machine. I'll have to ask Matt & Kinzie about that"

That's the biggest spoiler in the game, i wouldn't be surprised if the time machine wasn't a true ending because it's revealed without main campaign completion.

Wait, I just realized


Was it... was it ever implied that any of these events happened AFTER the game ended? :0 Perhaps we're both wrong. Maybe the game actually takes place over a much longer time period than we think!

 

[rastaman289]

@HokyoHollowpoint

SPOILERS!
Well Enter The Dominatrix was suppose to be The3rd's expansion & would rewrite IV's ending .
"The Protagonist realizes the only way to kill Zinyak is to shoot Zinyak in the head.
After Zinyak dies, the AI known as The Dominatrix takes over his empire and sends the humans to a Virtual Steelport."

How the Saints Save Christmas
The Christmas Text Adventures indicate that the DLC takes place after the main game.

Saints Row: Gat out of Hell
An epilogue to Saints Row IV.

Each takes place after IV
Have you played Saints Row: Gat out of Hell ?
lol I haven't but read the spoilers on the ending that's interesting.

Enter The Dominatrix was supposed to be SR4 before it totally changed . It does not take place after SR4 but in an another story .
and for How the Saints Saved Christmas, I've always wanted to see Santa on the ship
And GooH is after SR4 and is a really important part of the story because there's many endings . We don't know what's coming after this but we have many possibilities .
New planet ? Or new timeline ? What the Saints will become in the future ? Will they completely change or stay the same ?

 

[3bertrand1993]

Enter The Dominatrix was supposed to be SR4 before it totally changed . It does not take place after SR4 but in an another story .
and for How the Saints Saved Christmas, I've always wanted to see Santa on the ship
And GooH is after SR4 and is a really important part of the story because there's many endings . We don't know what's coming after this but we have many possibilities .
New planet ? Or new timeline ? What the Saints will become in the future ? Will they completely change or stay the same ?

So far everyone wants either Shadowrun, Timesplitters or something akin to SR2.

 

[3bertrand1993]

@rastaman289
Enter The Dominatrix Yes it take place as another story but the results would be the save as it still takes place after the end of Zinyak & the events of what he did.
Enter The Dominatrix was an expansion after The3rd's events which makes it IV anyway.

2 Christmas
Yea i did to, you know he is still on Zinyak's ship though.

3. Gat Out Of Hell.
SPOILERS lol.
Well that's the thing, you notice those ending implies the earth is gone & the Saints never used time travel to bring it back.
@rastaman289
@3bertrand1993
Why not do everything?
The new-gen systems can handle an over the top Saints, so why not do a Saints V with super abilities continuing the story, a full on crackdown/prototype/Shadowrun/Timesplitters deal, while taking notes from GTAV & do an online open world multiplayer expansion that takes place after V with it's own story.
The plot would involve the Saints using time travel goes back to save members that died.

If they do go down the "open world timesplitters" route i'm really hoping that means we get more variety in enemies than SR4. (For example Nazis, Roman Soldiers, British Imperial Forces, Terrorists, Contras, Medieval Mercs, Steampunk, Cyberpunk etc) Alternatively for the time machine plot line they could have a scenario where say someone like Dex or a new villain combines all of the past gangs from previous SR titles into one "super syndicate" in order to take down the Saints. So that way we can still have the whacky technology and abilities we all know and love and it would be pretty interesting seeing what the elites\specialists for the Carneles, Rollers, VK, Ronin, Brotherhood and Samedi would look like.

 

[GhidorahVonDoom]

I just want Saints Row 5 to be a reboot.The main and current Saints Row storyline is just getting way too much out of hand.It starts with the protagonist being nearly killed in a gang fight and joining the Third Street Saints all the way to becoming the president of the FUCKING UNITED STATES and fighting aliens with superpowers in a simulated world.

What the fuck.

So yeah,with Saints Row 5 I just want it to be a reboot with all new characters.

 

[Quantum]

I just want Saints Row 5 to be a reboot.The main and current Saints Row storyline is just getting way too much out of hand.It starts with the protagonist being nearly killed in a gang fight and joining the Third Street Saints all the way to becoming the president of the FUCKING UNITED STATES and fighting aliens with superpowers in a simulated world.

What the fuck.

So yeah,with Saints Row 5 I just want it to be a reboot with all new characters.

But it wouldn't be Saints Row with all new characters. It would be a totally different game. I strongly believe there needs to be some tie back to the Third Street Saints from Saints Row 1. I think that's a big strength of the Saints Row games -- the interesting cast of characters. It's definitely one of the draws for me. Like any TV or movie series, you get attached to the characters and you want to see what happens next. That's why there was so much outrage when they killed off Johnny Gat in Saints Row The Third. As I mentioned before, he's the one remaining character from the original Third Street Saints (with the same voice actor, Daniel Dae Kim, through the entire series). I, personally, enjoy that continuity.

But I do agree, everything has gotten completely out of hand.

(and the new clown is STILL FREAKING ME OUT!!!)

 

[HokyoHollowpoint]

@3bertrand1993
Yea that would be a nightmare for the Saints too.

And see including the Carneles, Rollers, VK, Ronin, Brotherhood & Samedi would make for expanding the Gat out of Hell area by having the plot for V an unclosed portal to hell with dealing with dead members of the past.....Carneles, Rollers, VK, Ronin, Brotherhood & Samedi.
Taking over Zinyak's ship & using various simulated worlds to try & destroy the Saints.

The online multiplayer expansion could take over where Dex jumps in the time machine & tries building a super syndicate the players with created character protagonists have various co-op, team based story mode missions.
With non-story mode multiplayer battles, etc etc.

That all sounds like it would be cool but uh... still I am confused, if you save everyone from their simulations you get the ending with the time machine. I haven't paid it much attention, but isn't everyone there on the ship at the time Gat out of Hell starts? I just don't understand why the saints would hesitate on using the time machine. Could it be that they are still deciding on whether to return back to earth or to explore the universe in search of adventure? Or maybe they ALREADY used it and contrary to what comes to mind with something to **** up horribly being in the same 5 mile radius of the Saints, nothing warranting another game's worth of adventure just didn't happen?

 

[rastaman289]

Gamers build up too much money & there's too few ways to burn through it.
So how about clothing damage.
Clothing takes damage gradually & only ways to repair them would be buying replacements or visiting tailors.

Clothing would not effect character stats, offense or defense in any way.

2. Weapon degrading
Like clothing, weapons can only be repaired by weapon shops.

Additional to the normal stat point system:
3. Weapon building, Saints can build & modify any weapons with any other weapon abilities.

4. Super/Arcane power modifications
Super/Arcane power can be adjusted to decrease or increase in damage, rate of fire, width.

5. Super/Arcane power abilities can be combined like in elder scrolls oblivion.
Players can mix fire with ice, water with lightning, Vacuum with summon, etc.

Even though I don't agree with the weapon degrading system, I agree for all the other ones .

 

[Nocturnic]

Story: Okay, so we can probably assume Gat Out Of Hell is probably a non-canon sidestory; so we go for the good ending where we travel in time but instead of going back in time, surprise! We are in an alternate dimension where Earth isn't destroyed, but the Third Street Saints aren't cool anymore; the Boss is impeached (considering the approval ratings) and the Saints are now seen as offensive thanks to a group of moral guardians. The Saints will be able to meet their other selves as they are in an alternate dimension; some of them will be on their side, but others will be against them as the Third Street Saints try to save their image and reverse the impeachment.

So, what's with the alternate dimension?: Well, let's assume the Third Streets Saints did something wrong with the Zin technology, and now instead of going back to save their dimension's Earth; they are on a different dimension. Not only will this allow for the wacky gameplay the series has become known for, and should keep as it has allowed for some great missions and actual bosses. The alternate dimension can also finally justify co-op, with the alternate self being the second player.

The gangs:
-The moral guardians of course, not really much of a gang but they are the main antagonists. You will be facing against them in order to prevent them to turn the world into the Bosses' (because alt dimension) nightmare, which was a 50s reality devoid of violence and foul language. Important story mission will have you fight them, and one obligatory reference will have one of the Bosses throw a crowbar at a big screen ala 1984 so expect the moral guardians to be authoritarian, in addition; the moral guardians also hate reality.
-A group of people with neon-colored hair who claim to want to give cats the same rights as humans but instead; want to give cats supremacy over humans. Their leader is a cat who is lazy, and sits on a throne while eating cat food and drinking milk all day; not even talking other than a simple meow, so the cat isn't the main antagonist of that storyline but instead; a crazy cat lady. We'll of course also meet Genki here. Pierce will hate cats after this.
-A gang that parodies FaZe Clan, their storyline will allow for Illuminati references and loud, loud obnoxious noises. We can also toss in loads of references as well; aka MLG Saints Row brought to life.
-A Mad Max-like gang, we'll be fighting preppers here who think the world's ended ever since your arrival; perhaps something that happened in your dimension affected their minds?

Actual bosses: Let's face it; the previous Saint's Rows (except IV) didn't have much of actual boss fights, so if we stay in the same direction as SR4, we can have fun, real boss fights. Not just vehicles, QTEs or one-shotters; no, bosses that require you to git gud, change strategies, etc. That's what Saint's Row IV had, and if we have missions go in that direction; then we can have boss fights that are a blast to fight.

Setting: We won't be in Stilwater or Steelport, but we will be in a city in Maryland; fictional of course, and its name should start with an "S". I'm bad with naming cities, so Volition can name it lol.

Different routes during missions: Yep. Return that from SR3, and have that also affect the environment as well. The city may change depending on the game, and it could also burn bridges when it comes to activities and such; but the rewards can also be greater.

No more cheat upgrades aka Unlimited X: 'Nuff said.

Can we bring back dead characters?: Yes. Alternate dimension makes this possible.

Row row fight the powah!: This will be fighting the moral guardians.

Pop culture references: Especially in the FaZe Clan parody gang arc.

Modding Support: This should be a given, of course.

40-hour mainquest.

And more! Which others have probably mentioned.