Steam OS

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/valve-reveals-steam-machine-prototype-hardware-specifications/

Has anyone seen the announced specs for the prototype steam console?

To me it seems like a glorified pc; but imo I think this is the right way to go for getting into the console game

I see one problem right off the bat.

  • GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
  • CPU: some boxes with Intel Core i7-4770, some Core i5-4570, and some Core i3
  • RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
  • Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
  • Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
A 450W PSU will not be able to handle a Titan, or even a GTX780

Titans want a 600W PSU minimum.
 
I see one problem right off the bat.

  • GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
  • CPU: some boxes with Intel Core i7-4770, some Core i5-4570, and some Core i3
  • RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
  • Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
  • Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
A 450W PSU will not be able to handle a Titan, or even a GTX780

Titans want a 600W PSU minimum.

I thought this aswell, and surely with hardware like that the price would be ridiculous

And again on the psu; I wouldn't trust a 450w to power even the lowest end one; hell I hate running my a64 and 8800 on my 460w
 
I thought this aswell, and surely with hardware like that the price would be ridiculous

And again on the psu; I wouldn't trust a 450w to power even the lowest end one; hell I hate running my a64 and 8800 on my 460w

My gaming system is currently running on a 950W PSU, and my TV system with a GTX650Ti has a 530W PSU.
 
I see one problem right off the bat.

  • GPU: some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
  • CPU: some boxes with Intel Core i7-4770, some Core i5-4570, and some Core i3
  • RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB DDR5 (GPU)
  • Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
  • Power Supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
A 450W PSU will not be able to handle a Titan, or even a GTX780

Titans want a 600W PSU minimum.
Titans want 600W PSUs because they're expecting you to install it in a full-blown Tower system with optical drives, multiple hard drives and lots of fans.

They work just fine in micro-systems like this is going to be.
 
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/valve-reveals-steam-machine-prototype-hardware-specifications/

Has anyone seen the announced specs for the prototype steam console?

To me it seems like a glorified pc; but imo I think this is the right way to go for getting into the console game

It is a glorified PC.....that's kinda the idea. It just so happens to be a very specific PC....and for gaming an extremely high end PC. The low end Geforce 660, is fully capable of running anything on top settings at 50-60 fps, and the processors are more then enough. 16 gb of memory seems a little excessive in my opinion however.

What you have to keep in mind is that all of that doesn't actually matter....all Valve is doing is reducing the possibility of configurations and maximizing the performance of the OS. It's making a high end gaming PC that conserves resources like a console. Someone with two times those specs while running Windows will still most likely not be able to keep up with a streamlined Steam box. Just as a PC with comparable specs to a console couldn't play most games consoles do today. It's just simple optimization. What this brings to the table is a PC that not only nudges a head of next gen gaming consoles, but decimates them on all levels. Right now the major difference between PC's and consoles is the PC's vast memory with both the general system memory and gpu memory. That gives you HD textures and a few more shadows.....derp derp. If you could squeeze the specs listed above like a console.....damn. A Xbox 360 has amazing performance for an 8 year old gaming machine.....imagine if it had 36 times total memory! Hahahaha, that puts it into perspective right there! 512 mb combined memory, versus 14 gb combined memory (given the gpu's are 2 gb) Holy cow.....that's alotta nuts!

In the end money talks. If a highend Steam box costs $800....then it was all pointless. Really $500 is the max they could ask and the machine still be relevant. Valve leaving the production up to 3rd party manufacturers is troubling to say the least. This implies more of a symbolic launch rather then a real attempt at competing with consoles. Several android based consoles have launched rescently, and they have all been symbolic. Either under powered, or over priced. When someone manufactures a high end gaming PC and then asks $2000 for it I wonder if there is $1000 in 20's hidden in the disc tray, cause other wise.....you could build the same thing for half the price....any ways....I ramble.....
 
$800 and $2000 are very different numbers.

Not when selling a gaming console. If it's over $500, it might as well be a million. The $2,000 remark was in reference to other prebuilt gaming PC's. These things have insane price points. Alienware and so on and so forth. If Valve is merely tacking their name onto what is already failing I don't imagine we will see any change in the PC gaming market. The RENT is too damn high, and a gaming PC over $500 is pointless. The new consoles are offering a very impressive package for $400-$500. Things are about to get fierce. PC gaming has to step up the value.
 
The concept of Steam OS is interesting, but Valve getting into selling hardware (Steam Box, not the controller) may be a mistake. One of the benefits of PC gaming is the ability to customize your own system to fit the needs of the games you play, at your own budget. Steam Box seems to be just a linux PC sold at a premium price due to branding and form factor. The hardware side just doesn't sound so appealing especially when many current PC gamers already have a system that can run their games, and are just an upgrade or two away to play future releases.

I can understand the appeal of playing in your living room on the big screen, and not having to lug your existing tower to play there. However, even if you were in the market for a living room PC, you can purchase similar or better parts individually at the same or lower price point (we'll get a better picture when pricing info is released, but generally making your own system is cheaper), and install Steam OS yourself or play in big picture mode.

I would be interested in buying the Steam controller though, depending on the price-point and reviews. Even if the design is new, the functionality is the same as any other controller, so if it is too expensive, I would just stay with the well-made, inexpensive and comfortably familiar Xbox controller.
 
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I don't know where you got the idea the platform is "already failing" from. Didn't i just give you enough numbers, in the third post of this thread, to show that it isn't? This is starting to sound like 2005 all over again. Is MySpace coming back?

No, no, you misunderstand. I mean expensive prebuilt gaming PC's, not PC gaming in general. I was pointing out that the market for $2,000+ gaming PC's just isn't all that good. Mainly because the price is wildly bloated. Before you can actually use the machine's specs it will be obsolete. What I was meaning is that if the Steambox is merely repeating Alienware, then it is rather pointless. The general population has no interest in spending over $500 for a gaming machine. Actually, $399 has been the sweet spot for along time. It would be possible for Valve to get this done, but it'd take some real tricky footwork. First off, no i7's. Actually, no i anything. Toss AMD 8350's in everything. They're cheap and powerful. Tack on a Geforce 660, a big ass fan and OC everything. A fast, big ass 1 TB HDD and a $75 mobo. If you built that from retail parts your looking at $600. Wholesale your looking at under $500 in parts, and on a mass production scale sub $400. That's in the realm of possible. So, there is no reason for a Steambox to be over $399, unless they are determined to shove $500 i7's into these things to run video games.....which is just wasteful.
 
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