How do you feel about Saints Row DLC?

[[V] IdolNinja]

Be honest. We can take it. I am even going to suspend rule #1 in this thread, so let it fly. In addition to voting in the poll, please feel free to leave specific comments in this thread regarding your feelings about how Volition has handled DLC for all the Saints Row games. This is your chance to make your voice heard.

NOTE: You can select multiple responses

 

[Mask Mods]

I like both the missions and weapons packs, I just wish ther was more missions and more things to extend gameplay time. Always like how the mission DLC are always realy crazy and dont tend to tie in with the main story that much. Realy hate it when missions are repetative tho missons should be a bit more of a challange aswell, I realy enjoy it when you have to fight like 30+ enemies at once

 

[MrGarry2u]

I'd like Volition to include everything first time round. And if they want to add things after that I'd happily buy them.
But come on, a game where you get super powers and it's taken THIS LONG to get the capes? Are you shitting me? Anyone who buys the "Full package" version of whatever the FULL game gets called will benefit from everything being there. Feels like early adopters get screwed.
You said be honest, I love Saints Row but don't take this road... online passes? Season passes? Content that should have been there form the start no available?.... sorry.

EDIT: While I'm at it, the resolution and frame rate of the PS3 version gives me a headache compared to my Steam version. What went on there?

But I mean... I like Saints Row and everything. Although this post is like hate.

 

[shitface]

DLC has, by and large, been handled extremely poorly by this franchise. Most of their offerings in SRTT were downright insulting- overpriced packs offering minuscule amounts of content (a lot of which was on-disc DLC), with multiple bugs that needed to be fixed with mods. The mission packs offered very little variety in terms of gameplay, and most disappointingly of all- confined almost all of the new weapons and features in the DLC to use only in the missions. Leaving it up to modders (again) to make this stuff usable in the open world. Genki Bowl was really the only exception, it added a decent amount of new gameplay and let you use the unique vehicles in the open world.

The trend shows no sign of stopping in SR4, although at least under Deep Silver the DLC is mostly bug free. A lot of the content offered is overpriced for what you're getting- superficial shit like skins and vehicles. I'd really like to see DLC that adds more meat onto the game: new activities and missions that don't just boil down to "go here, shoot dudes", or half-baked ideas copy pasted from previous games (EtD I'm looking at you). New, exciting gameplay options, activities and diversions are what will keep me playing SR4 longer, not $2.99 clothing and vehicle packs. Who the hell even uses vehicles in SR4 anyway?

Ultimately it's up to us as consumers to not buy it if you don't want to support this kind of DLC. Volition/Deep Silver could be offering much better content.

 

[tonicmole]

The DLC is really bad. Though I love every core game in the franchise the DLC usually tarnishes my veiw of Volition and who ever their publisher might be at the time. In fact, I usually end up feeling like Volition is spitting in my face a little, even when the DLC is cheap. Having said that, I love the core games so much that I buy every single bit of DLC......yet usually at least feel partially let down. It might be just me, but I feel much of the content for the entire franchise has been a little dickish. Basically stuff you come to expect from publishers such as EA, and Activision, what makes it feel so shitty is that I expect better from Volition.

The best of the content was certainly SRTT's story DLC. It was way too short, and added little to the overall game, but had some of the funniest moments. In the end, I'm not saying I don't like the little tid bit DLC like costumes and weapons, but I feel it's a waste to not extend the life of SRT 4 in a substantial way with the power of DLC.

Last but not least, a Season Pass includes all of that seasons DLC....or it's not a season pass at all.....SRT 4's Season Pass is just another example of Volition having little to know clue of how to handle DLC. Rockstar, Ubisoft, and Bethesda, not only have a good record with DLC, but they make a huge amount of their games revenue off of it. They are a pretty good example of doing it right.

 

[arkayn]

I agree that the DLC missions have just been way too short, and don't tie in to the main game at all.

I like what Bethseda did with Skyrim, added content that allowed you to do the missions when you wanted too and the capability of having multiple missions going at the same time.

 

[tonicmole]

I agree that the DLC missions have just been way too short, and don't tie in to the main game at all.

I like what Bethseda did with Skyrim, added content that allowed you to do the missions when you wanted too and the capability of having multiple missions going at the same time.

Also Bethesda (admittedly working on a huge budget) added content with free updates as well. It makes a girl feel special.

 

[Corrodias]

They tried to sell cheats.

edit: All right, let me see if i can't elaborate a little on my views of DLC.

I don't like spending money. It's more tolerable for me to spend it in one chunk than to spend the same amount over several transactions. (I'll get back to season passes in a moment.)

I like costumes and items. I do not like buying costumes and items. Every time, i will choose simply to go without them, rather than to make another financial transaction. When it's cheaper to forego colorful costumes, why wouldn't i? I can buy a delicious grinder full of meats and vegetables with that money. You want me to give it away for a trinket in a game? I buy games for their engagement value, for their entertainment, and i can get by without a slight variation on a shotgun.

When a game is constantly badgering me to spend money is the worst. It utterly ruins the relationship. Art, engagement, entertainment, exploration -- anything i get out of the experience is taking a back seat to capitalism, as the developer has prioritized it.

I don't like buying missions, but since they're a substantial chunk of "actual stuff", i can tolerate it a little better.

Season passes are asking for more trust in the quality and value of vaporous futures than Volition has earned. I'm not sure that any company has earned that level of trust from me. Maaaaybe Valve, but they don't pull DLC shenanigans like this and have not yet tried "season passes".

I oppose DLC in general on two more philosophical points, related by a common cause: division and overhead.

Division
As soon as you publish DLC, you separate the players into the "haves" and the "have-nots", so some people simply aren't getting the same experience as others. I have an instinctual distaste for that, and i don't think i can really explain why. Although it might have to do with the fact that if you play a DLC-laden game, and your friend plays it a year later, your friend experiences a better game that cost less. That hurts.

Overhead
DLC requires accounts. I know you're publishing exclusively on Steam, which means you require accounts anyway. Still, having DLC means you never have the option of a DRM-free release, and other games suffer for that. I see this as unnecessary tie-in to a fragile system that might not be there tomorrow (something like, say, GFWL). I actually don't know how CDPR handled DLC for The Witcher series. I'm pretty sure TW2 had some, though it was made free later.

And they tried to sell cheats.

 

[Saints Row Superior]

Hello.

To be honest, all I can say is. If the base game is terrible, there's not much enjoyment even with whatever DLCs they throw at me. But, I've been a fan of Saints Row series ever since SR2. So, I'll still just buy all the DLCs even if the base game doesn't appeal to me much. Because I'm one of those "must collect 'em all" type of person, when I enjoyed the previous games to the series I will try to make my collection complete no matter what. I know this will make me sound like a dick, but in all honesty I've observed that the gaming industry is getting terrible the longer it gets. I mean, how come the older version will always have better content and then the latest version will have all those content to be cut down? That's some weird logic you guys have there, puzzled me all these years. Usually, the modding community is the one will try to improve the game for us. So, if I want to see more DLCs in the future. At least, please make sure it has content that brings improvement to the base game. This is the explanation of why I love SR2 more, would love to see those features in the future be it the game or DLCs if possible.

 

[tonicmole]

They tried to sell cheats.

So, that's a bad thing? Hahahaha.....

Volition: "So now you guys don't like buying cheats!? When did this happen!? Next you'll say you hate retextures! These people are impossible to please!!!"

I think the obviousness of how bad THQ/Volition/Deep Silver's DLC is, makes it that much worse, but it's not just bad, it's idiotic and insulting at times. Cheats, retextures, short, buggy super hyped 30 minute DLC missions, so on and so forth. To answer the question, yes. If Volition releases shit, we won't like it. It's odd how that works. What we want is something not shitty. I imagine there is an intern named Greg, and he makes all of the DLC for Saints Row on a laptop running Windows 95, with a picture of his mother on his desktop. He has a program with one button that says "Randomize!" He presses it, and then giggles as he shits his pants due to some sort of perverse fetish for failing. Hahaha take that rule number one!