Late Great Idol Ninja says to flippy in their DM's before he departed to heaven completely
dude so much disappointed on mini after what happened and also reach Deep Sliver executives that issue so they decided to demoted he's ass to just community manager only tsk tsk tsk
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This is actually really sad and uncalled for. This goes with what I said not too long ago on another thread, talking about community drama. It's really saddening that so many modding communities lately (GTA's probably the worst culprit of the bunch) have just been so excessively toxic. Instead of talking things out, people would rather slander each other, harass, dox, send death threats, often over things that just... aren't even worth being angry over.
I've seen a lot of great modders stop modding because they couldn't handle the toxicity of some communities, including my friend Zolika1351. It just doesn't seem right to me. At the end of the day, we're modders. We all just want to improve our favorite games together. We should collaborate more and work together to provide great experiences—not this. If you don't like someone, either talk it out like a grown adult, try to resolve or make a compromise, or just... don't engage with them. Don't talk behind their back, don't slander them, don't rally thousands of people against them and spread lies. Don't hold grudges. Life is too short for that sort of thing.
While I can't say for sure if Mini was behind Flippy's account takeover, although evidence points to it, if it was definitely him then all I can think of is just... why? What do you gain by doing that? As others have said here, this all could've just been forgotten and moved on. Mini did apologize wholeheartedly for what he did, which I'm sure a fair number of us at least appreciate somewhat. Assuming he was behind this, he could've just left it at that, instead of this excessive drama. It serves zero purpose—it just makes things worse.
To anyone who comes across my post: please don't harass anybody. Not Mini, not the staff, not anybody. It's not worth making a situation much bigger than it already is, or bigger than it needs to be. I don't care who's at fault, because we need to stop with the hate on both sides, and learn to get along and forgive. I don't condone any kind of negativity. Do people fuck up? Absolutely. Do people mean to fuck up? Most of the time, no. People make mistakes, that's just human nature, and that's okay. However, this is a case-by-case basis. More importantly, should things get called out and should justice be served where applicable? Also absolutely. But remember that there's always a better way to handle a situation. And I know this, because I used to be an asshole myself back then. I've done things many years ago that I'm not exactly proud of. And I regret it every day since then. I've learned to better myself, and I feel it's best if I try to help others better themselves too.
The same goes for you Mini, and I mean this wholeheartedly. Please don't make things worse, and don't do anything you'll end up regretting later on. That being said, I do at least hope you're okay, and I hope you can learn to get over things eventually. I'm not the kind of person who wants to wish anything on anybody—not even my worst enemies. But I do understand that actions still have consequences and should be dealt with accordingly. But there's still always a better way to deliver said consequences.
At the end of the day, we all enjoy the same things, we're all here for the same reasons. Does it really have to be this bad?
I've seen a lot of great modders stop modding because they couldn't handle the toxicity of some communities, including my friend Zolika1351. It just doesn't seem right to me. At the end of the day, we're modders. We all just want to improve our favorite games together. We should collaborate more and work together to provide great experiences—not this. If you don't like someone, either talk it out like a grown adult, try to resolve or make a compromise, or just... don't engage with them. Don't talk behind their back, don't slander them, don't rally thousands of people against them and spread lies. Don't hold grudges. Life is too short for that sort of thing.
While I can't say for sure if Mini was behind Flippy's account takeover, although evidence points to it, if it was definitely him then all I can think of is just... why? What do you gain by doing that? As others have said here, this all could've just been forgotten and moved on. Mini did apologize wholeheartedly for what he did, which I'm sure a fair number of us at least appreciate somewhat. Assuming he was behind this, he could've just left it at that, instead of this excessive drama. It serves zero purpose—it just makes things worse.
To anyone who comes across my post: please don't harass anybody. Not Mini, not the staff, not anybody. It's not worth making a situation much bigger than it already is, or bigger than it needs to be. I don't care who's at fault, because we need to stop with the hate on both sides, and learn to get along and forgive. I don't condone any kind of negativity. Do people fuck up? Absolutely. Do people mean to fuck up? Most of the time, no. People make mistakes, that's just human nature, and that's okay. However, this is a case-by-case basis. More importantly, should things get called out and should justice be served where applicable? Also absolutely. But remember that there's always a better way to handle a situation. And I know this, because I used to be an asshole myself back then. I've done things many years ago that I'm not exactly proud of. And I regret it every day since then. I've learned to better myself, and I feel it's best if I try to help others better themselves too.
The same goes for you Mini, and I mean this wholeheartedly. Please don't make things worse, and don't do anything you'll end up regretting later on. That being said, I do at least hope you're okay, and I hope you can learn to get over things eventually. I'm not the kind of person who wants to wish anything on anybody—not even my worst enemies. But I do understand that actions still have consequences and should be dealt with accordingly. But there's still always a better way to deliver said consequences.
At the end of the day, we all enjoy the same things, we're all here for the same reasons. Does it really have to be this bad?
I have to walk back all I said towards Minimaul. I don't like Flippy, but wrong is wrong and YOU DID HIM WRONG. Even I wouldn't have gone as far as to do all that sneaky crap to get back at someone I didn't like. Three of my friends pretty much got labeled liars/backstabbers because you got called out. There was a multitude of better things you could've done besides this, but to go as far as to throw three random people under the bus (one who isn't even a mod on this website) is next level low down dirty foolishness. 
Flippy is very respected by us OG SR fans and the truth has been exposed once again. The evidences certainly points towards Minimaul (whom we were suspecting as well meanwhile). Minimaul posted an apology to prove he's a good guy and behind the scenes attempted to slander Flippy and frame that controversial member Godzhand. It's a shame, really.
Minimual, please leave the community you've done enough damage already.
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I don’t know what to say to this second video other than that it’s just not true.
I didn’t reset any passwords and I didn’t write any messages impersonating Fl1ppy. I don’t know who did.
I’m already in the process of handing off the site to two respected SR community members, MegaFreeman and mrsaintsgodzilla, after which I will have nothing more whatsoever to do with this community.
I didn’t reset any passwords and I didn’t write any messages impersonating Fl1ppy. I don’t know who did.
I’m already in the process of handing off the site to two respected SR community members, MegaFreeman and mrsaintsgodzilla, after which I will have nothing more whatsoever to do with this community.
Honestly it's been over for so long at this point that all I have for this latest drama is popcorn. Volition no longer exists, Deep Silver sucks, both SR discords suck and they are full of bad people etc. so it wouldn't move me whatsoever if this site ended up getting on the list too. SR died as a community the day when the 2022 game was announced and it wasn't shunned universally. It died its second death when a dying man's final wish couldn't be respected and even then some members tried to cause a commotion by lying about the patch still being in the works.
What this latest development proves is that the community is beyond the point where things like common decency and shame exist. So let's eat some popcorn and watch the death rattle.
What this latest development proves is that the community is beyond the point where things like common decency and shame exist. So let's eat some popcorn and watch the death rattle.
Mini, regarding your previous actions, I think it's safe to say we can't exactly rule you out as a suspect here. There is plenty of evidence to prove that nobody else had any involvement with Flippy's account, and there's also proof that it wasn't just simply an "outsider" either. I'm sorry, but there's simply way too many factors involved that point to you. Especially when considering your mannerisms and how you speak, compared to Flippy's "hacker's" mannerisms and how they spoke. That alone raises suspicions of the highest degree, and it's oddly coincidental. Not to mention that you're a higher-ranking site administrator too.
The other admins have proved that they have no involvement, but we haven't seen you actually prove anything regarding whether or not you had any involvement in Flippy's account takeover. What you're suggesting is that somehow Flippy's email, and everything related to it, was hacked. Which as we can see is clearly not the case. If it was, not only would other things have definitely been noticed way sooner, but there'd also be a multitude of other signs to show it. Even then, the person controlling Flippy's account was quite clearly someone who is well-versed in what's happening here. I feel if someone really wanted to hijack his account and have their "say", they'd simply hack just his Saints Row Mods account, not his entire email and everything else that's associated with it (and might I add that hacking a Saints Row Mods forum account would be significantly easier and less time-consuming than hacking an email and everything alongside it?). So it's either that claim, which is proven nonsense, or you had involvement.
While I don't think anyone should be harassing you (frankly, nobody should be harassing anybody), it's best that you don't dig yourself any further into the hole you've dug yourself into. My friend, I'm sorry to say, but you've got a lot of evidence against you to refute.
The other admins have proved that they have no involvement, but we haven't seen you actually prove anything regarding whether or not you had any involvement in Flippy's account takeover. What you're suggesting is that somehow Flippy's email, and everything related to it, was hacked. Which as we can see is clearly not the case. If it was, not only would other things have definitely been noticed way sooner, but there'd also be a multitude of other signs to show it. Even then, the person controlling Flippy's account was quite clearly someone who is well-versed in what's happening here. I feel if someone really wanted to hijack his account and have their "say", they'd simply hack just his Saints Row Mods account, not his entire email and everything else that's associated with it (and might I add that hacking a Saints Row Mods forum account would be significantly easier and less time-consuming than hacking an email and everything alongside it?). So it's either that claim, which is proven nonsense, or you had involvement.
While I don't think anyone should be harassing you (frankly, nobody should be harassing anybody), it's best that you don't dig yourself any further into the hole you've dug yourself into. My friend, I'm sorry to say, but you've got a lot of evidence against you to refute.