I agree there my friend. Saints row is its own series. More realistic than grand theft auto from my point of view. And it doesn't take a year or two behind schedule to get them finished on time like gta5. Either way it doesn't matter to who owns what company, i just put this together so we could get some ideas together. So far me and 3 other people seem to like the grappling hook. Maybe we should make up a drawing or design.what i mean is a lot of people gun down sr series because its different, but its different in a good way it is not gta it is saints row it is its own franchise it also is a innovative game series it pushes the limits ,look at how many mission types we have activities types we have