How do you feel about Saints Row DLC?

What are you feelings regarding Saints Row DLC for SRTT and SRIV?

  • I love it and can't wait to buy more!

    Votes: 38 11.8%
  • I like it and buy some of it that interests me

    Votes: 76 23.6%
  • I like the mission packs, but not the item ones (clothing, weapons)

    Votes: 80 24.8%
  • I like the items dlc packs, but not the mission ones

    Votes: 10 3.1%
  • I like the dlc, but it costs more than it's worth

    Votes: 97 30.1%
  • I dislike most of the dlc that's been released so far

    Votes: 46 14.3%
  • I hate Volition's DLC practices!

    Votes: 46 14.3%
  • I want an expansion to the base game that adds additional features

    Votes: 173 53.7%

  • Total voters
    322
I really like the dlcs that give you new missions.

But I really dislike the item DLCs.
The reason why one of my choises was '
hate Volition's DLC practices!
is because in Saints Row The Third, a lot of the item DLCs were already on the disk, but they wanted you to pay even more then 60 dollars for some outfits.

For example the special ops vehicle pack. 3 dollars for 3 reskinned vehicles? C'mon Volition, you can do better then that. And again, those were already on the disk.

Instead of releasing these pointless item packs, Volition should concentrate on fixing bugs, adding more features to the base game and if they make DLC, just make a very big one (just look GTA Episodes Of Liberty City.)
 
I don't like violition's dlc practice, but it could be worse. EA likes to release dlc the same time as their game comes out "and" used to ask people who did not buy new copies of games to pay 10 bucks for the online or multiplayer (this has been widely dropped but lets not forget it happened).

This is probably why pirating has increased, after all, if I'm not gonna get my moneys worth why the fuck should I pay you at all?
 
To be fair, the problem with "on the disk" DLC is most games are NOT co-op. It's a big distinction, and while you might not realize what it means, in this case what it means is EVERY DLC in any of the games is 'on the disk DLC' (well, except SR2 PC, they didn't get the DLCs). The game has to allow you to play with someone who has whatever added content bought, thus it had to have it in your files, just not usable. Weapons, vehicles, outfits, missions, everything is in the same game you're playing stock without addons. It's not the same as EA's "day 0 DLC" because it was added later. It's in because it has to be in this case, EA does it because they have a weird release/gold schedule and DLC can be authorized far faster, letting them finish parts of the game that would otherwise be cut and then charge extra for them too (according to what I've heard etc).

As for the actual DLC it is... I think the problem is they're suffering from the need to keep relevant. They constantly pump out quick cheap DLC packs with a few vehicle skins, weapon skins, a few costumes, or what have you. Sure it takes work and such, but it's a lot less work than a full-out mission pack like EtD was. The reason it's done is it's quick and only typically takes one or two people (plus testing) so they can have a few of them, even while the staff as a whole is working on the next bigger one. The problem though is their story DLCs seem to suffer. I know it takes a lot of work and time, but the DLC seems... smaller now. Shorter. Bethesda came up and while I dislike their overall practices (notably pump budget/time into marketing, not to programming or bugtesting, and certainly not for patches, and then rely on the fanboys to cry foul if you question the perfection of their game) they DO have a (mostly, remember horse armor?) good idea of DLC. Large stories, some large areas, etc. Actual NEW areas. A number of story missions in a whole new area added on. Something new to explore.

That's what Volition needs to do.. the biggest problem might be their engine however, as while the Creation Engine (or whatever it's being called now) can throw on new worldspaces and new content with a simple ini change to load it as it goes, the CTG engine has to stuff it all on one map. Maybe. I do remember the musings on another thread. That there is an inherent issue.. it means that while they can do some little new stuff there's a very limited space to do it in because of that physics box limitation, and thus stuff that doesn't go on the map like cars and costumes and guns are preferred because they can be added without issue (until the xtbl limits). What's really needed then is a serious look into ways to extend the engine to allow new worldspaces or to seriously increase the physics box (to stuff new areas off in the new ocean) and then really go at it. It'll take time, and a lot of money, but if we start to see DLC that looks more like an expansion pack than a quick mission pack, I'll be happy. Yes it will take longer and cost more, but I'd be willing to pay $20 for a whole new map to roam, collectables too, new missions (more than 5, seriously, maybe some actual sidequests like the loyalty/upgrade missions were) and new content.
 
LittleBigPlanet used to get updates all the time that allowed you to play with people who had DLC that you didn't. It got to the point where everytime you turned it on it needed HDD space and update time... but the difference was, it was new stuff made after the game shipped in most cases, not stuff they just released for more money that could have been on there all along.
 
These ideas are GREAT. :D
BTW, I could pay 5 euro for Boats DLC (and I don't mean "boat" from Pirate Booty DLC :p).
You what would be awesome? do you know??a DLC that allow you to explore............the REAL WORLD, a big place full of red clounds with city's full of wreckage, some UFO´s patrolling for alive humans, Resistance soldiers, mountains of skull, i mean a very dark/obscure atmosphere like in matrix or terminator movies, cool missions, oh and of course no super powere there but some post-apoc weapon skins, that would be F*cking Aweeeeesom Please Volition listen to Meeee
 
You what would be awesome? do you know??a DLC that allow you to explore............the REAL WORLD, a big place full of red clounds with city's full of wreckage, some UFO´s patrolling for alive humans, Resistance soldiers, mountains of skull, i mean a very dark/obscure atmosphere like in matrix or terminator movies, cool missions, oh and of course no super powere there but some post-apoc weapon skins, that would be F*cking Aweeeeesom Please Volition listen to Meeee
I think the planet actually blasted into pieces, but it'd be cool to have a chunk of earth with a city on it drifting through space, and there could still be people in space suits walking around on it. Maybe even gangs. That'd be redonkulous. "Life goes on" even after the planet blows up.
 
Or maybe Ultor knew the aliens were coming and fled to Mars, and started to mine there. They should make a game about a miner's revolt on Mars and... oh.

I'd like some DLC that involves some time travel but, seeing how crazy things are in Saints Row already do we wanna be tinkering with time? Playing with paradoxes? Getting Chronology Crunk?
 
I think the planet actually blasted into pieces, but it'd be cool to have a chunk of earth with a city on it drifting through space, and there could still be people in space suits walking around on it. Maybe even gangs. That'd be redonkulous. "Life goes on" even after the planet blows up.
it will be my dream to have some mutant gang or maybe a renegade alien gang that helps you on DLC mission
 
All I want is more to do in the game. I was playing SR:TT up to the week before SRIV's launch and it was fun. I could keep busy. There were side missions and assassinations and car thefts. Something to do other than walk around and endlessly piss off the cops. Since SRIV came out I've been hesitant to touch SR:TT because I have issues going backwards in games and losing what it feels like I've accomplished, but there's nothing to do. I could try to get a gold medal versus the silvers I unlocked in a few places but what is the point? I don't want to do those missions again. I don't care about the rewards. The missions I do want to do, like the story missions, I can't. Not without starting completely over again.

Each time a new DLC pack comes out I hope there's something that will make me want to play this game again. I go and put on my crappy costume suit (because everything is a single piece now) and I test out the new weapon skin that may or may not have come with it. After about an hour I'm done. I shelve the game again and I sit and lurk endlessly on these forums hoping to see if someone in the modding community can cure that itch for me.

The SR:TT mission packs where fine. They each added something new to the game and were mostly fun to replay. EtD was fun, but not the kind of fun I want to endlessly replay. In fact all it really does is make me miss the old Cribs more. I hate that they were taken away. I hate that they seem to be in the game and not accessible. At least with them I could feel some connection to the city.

SRIV has, for me, become a stale sandbox with nothing to do but attract the Zin and kill Wardens again and again. Please Volition, for the love of god, give me a reason to keep playing. I will give you all of my money if you can just give me something back that makes it feel worthwhile.
 
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All I want is more to do in the game. I was playing SR:TT up to the week before SRIV's launch and it was fun. I could keep busy. There were side missions and assassinations and car thefts. Something to do other than walk around and endlessly piss off the cops. Since SRIV came out I've been hesitant to touch SR:TT because I have issues going backwards in games and losing what it feels like I've accomplished, but there's nothing to do. I could try to get a gold medal versus the silvers I unlocked in a few places but what is the point? I don't want to do those missions again. I don't care about the rewards. The missions I do want to do, like the story missions, I can't. Not without starting completely over again.

Each time a new DLC pack comes out I hope there's something that will make me want to play this game again. I go and put on my crappy costume suit (because everything is a single piece now) and I test out the new weapon skin that may or may not have come with it. After about an hour I'm done. I shelve the game again and I sit and lurk endlessly on these forums hoping to see if someone in the modding community can cure that itch for me.

The SR:TT mission packs where fine. They each added something new to the game and were mostly fun to replay. EtD was fun, but not the kind of fun I want to endlessly replay. In fact all it really does is make me miss the old Cribs more. I hate that they were taken away. I hate that they seem to be in the game and not accessible. At least with them I could feel some connection to the city.

SRIV has, for me, become a stale sandbox with nothing to do but attract the Zin and kill Wardens again and again. Please Volition, for the love of god, give me a reason to keep playing. I will give you all of my money if you can just give me something back that makes it feel worthwhile.

Totally agree with you here. I've completed SRIV but after that I went back to The Third.
 
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